10 Mar
Canon/Nikon: The next major step is..
Posted by smith under enart.hubeidaxue.com
Anyone agree? Disagree? What do you think?
Since the camera body is usually the pivot point simple math tells you that the best place (most economical too) is where there is the most movement ie-the end of the lens. (hint for the math challenged: remember fulcrums and levers)
Now if they could come up with an AI that would view a scene like a human eye/brain would and then capture a "memory" They might have something!
It's like Nikon bringing out the bodies without a focusing motor (D40), it's the perfect move. People that are new to photography looking to get 'seriously' in to it will look for a DSLR but can't justify spending too much so buy the entry level models without the motor. Now they've got the camera they need to buy good lenses, AF-S lenses etc, and so when they upgrade they have to go with Nikon again, sensible option since they've spent all this cash on good glass. D40's etc get sold second hand, even cheaper for other people new to photography to pickup and then they're in the same boat.
I think my point here is, they have less in-body (cheaper cameras) and more in the lenses (you've got to then buy decent lenses).. therefore you have good, expensive glass and more likely to stay with that brand.
Here is a prototype that I was able to obtain, at great risk to my own safety, from Nikon's "SKUNKWORKS" buried deep inside Mount Fuji.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a247/lww/CherryNikonFwBC7.jpg
Stay tuned for further updates on this amazing new technological tour de force!
LWW
Improved ISO
Image bit-depth (none of the dSLRs offer 16-bit color depth yet.)
Dynamic Range (partially achieved through greater bit depth as well as ISO.) Look to get to at least 12 stops of dynamic range. Digital MFs already claim to be able to do that. (This may result in in-camera HDR, a marketing solution.)
Resolution on lines-per-milimeter. Right now super-sharp lenses are still out-performing sensors. The good Leica lenses (for instance) can resolve down to 10 lines per milimeter, and digital sensors in entry-level dSLRs can only capture 4 lines at best. Film is still much higher resolution when comparing l/mm. The new sensors in flagships like the D3 or 1Ds are definitely being underserved by their manufacturer's lenses. Even Canon's L lenses aren't keeping up with the sensors.
Digital-optimized lenses (lines-per-milimeter). That's partially a good idea (see comment above) and partially marketing hype.
We may see more in-camera IS because the market demands it, but anyone with a rudimentary sense of physics knows that it's a crap solution. A 600mm lens requires a different solution than a 35mm lens. You would have to write a lot of code to make them marry successfully. It's possible, but it's a market-driven work-around, not a technological solution.
Coolest niche-function I've seen in a while is focus-bracketing. The new Leaf AFi has it. You can take up to seven exposures automatically at different focal points, and then composite the shots later on. This results in a massive DOF for landscape and architecture work if you can't or don't want to work with long exposure times and narrow apertures.
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That's really the #1 problem... the simple fact that the camera is incapable of doing what the human eye and brain do together. TBH sometimes I like the effect that this has, but in many cases it's incredibly annoying not being able to reproduce what we see without bizarro methods like HDR or filters.
Ooohhhh... Sexy! :thumbup:
pascal
A digital body that can still use cheap and readily available old film lenses...oops, Sony's doing that too.
Looks like the next step is to buy an Alpha.
I'd rather have IS in the lens and not the body. Old film lenses? Sorry, Canon did that before Sony did. What do you mean by "the wrong one that happens to have IS"? If I don't need IS I just shut it off.
Not to start another Canon vs. Sony vs. Nikon war, but I'd rather have a camera made by a camera company and not a "everything electronics" company.
good point. Maybe an on/off switch for that?
(Oh, and I would be great if you could watch television on it too..;))
pascal
Such can be said for all capitalism without invention, but I digress.
Good point reg; I guess what I should have said was, "What's going to be their next big feature that they shove down our throats, telling us we need and which makes all of our current kit obsolete?"
A digital body that can still use cheap and readily available old film lenses...oops, Sony's doing that too.
Looks like the next step is to buy an Alpha.
that way people can truthfully say.. "nah, it's straight out the camera."
I believe the new Canon 40D and 1D grips have this ability.
Edit: From the DPReview.com review of the 40D
WFT-E3/E3A wireless transmitter / grip
The most interesting new addition from an accessory point of view is the WFT-E3/E3A wireless transmitter which now also doubles up as a vertical grip. Attached to the EOS 40D it provides all the normal vertical grip controls as well as WiFi, Wired Ethernet and USB storage connectivity. It has its own BP-511 battery which it is said will last as long (in constant use) as that in the camera. The WFT-E3 supports various protocols including FTP, PTP (remote control) and even has a built-in web server for HTTP browsing of images and remote shutter release.
http://www.mesa-imaging.ch/prodviews.php
http://www.measurementdevices.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=258
In DSLRs the increases in usable ISO have significantly influenced my shooting. I tried every high speed film/developer combo available in the late 90s, and no matter what the label said, actual film speed topped out at around ISO 800. ISO 1600 on any Canon DSLR I own is as clean or cleaner than ISO 400 35mm film. With the 5D I can push that to ISO 6400 or 12800, and it still looks better than 35mm Tmax 3200p. The Nikon D3 is giving us a taste of what's to come, but when photogs are getting usable ISOs 102,400 and above it's going to be amazing.
Maybe I've talked to the wrong people, but I've heard several people say that the in-lens stabilization is superior to in-body stabilization.
I personally would like to see the megapixel count continue to increase. Affordable MF-range dSLRs? I'm there.
skieur
pascal
There's got to be enough room for a SIM card and an aerial in there somewhere? There's probably processing power to spare and enough buttons to control it. Would you want it transmitting when you're holding it to your eye though?
Dust has always been the photographer's bane. Modern film photographers rarely deal with it themselves, but behind closed doors there used to be a lab tech with white cotton gloves and a tiny paint brush (at least at the full service labs) spending hours fixing dust marks. Every print had to be spotted individually unless someone was confident enough to have a go at retouching the neg. A tiny hair stuck in the emulsion of a neg becomes huge in the print, and if the film had fine grain spotting in a similar pattern required a very light touch. Screw it up and either live with it, or start over with a new print. Dust can become a problem when loading the film, in the camera, changing lenses, removing the film, developing the film, and printing. I'm sure most labs using modern printers are fixing dust digitally even from film. There are a lot of neat things about film; the way it handles dust is not one of them.
As a bonus, the sensor is replaced after each shot. This is a vast improvement over the current sensor designs, which seem to be engineered to protect all the other electronics from dust by attracting it to, and holding it firmly on the high-pass filter.
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We do have that already in some models. It's not 96bpp or anything though. They just use it to recapture blown highlights and stuff.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/11/canon-patents-fuel-cell-dslr-were-ready/
Since Olympus and Pentax already have it, inbody IS would hardly be an innovation. Just further proof that Canikon continue to get richer off the features that the tiny, likely failing brands actually "innovate".
Such can be said for all capitalism without invention, but I digress.
Curious.. which models? Are you referring to ISO bracketing in the Pentax bodies?
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